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Tiffin Allegro Breeze vs. Monaco Vesta Comparison

One of the first things people ask us when they first find our blog is: How did you get Monaco to sponsor you?

Well, Monaco did not give us a coach, and they haven’t become a sponsor of Gone With the Wynn’s yet either.  Rest assured we’ve tried to get them to sponsor us by giving us a new 2011 Monaco Vesta, but no such luck.  Good news is our opinion is not purchased, so we’re free to say what we want.

So the next question we get is: Why did you purchase the Monaco Vesta?

A little insight so you know our camping & rollercoaster RV past: 1. Car/Tent camping for years in TX, CO, NM, FL, AL MI, TN; 2. In early 2006 we purchased a 1985 VW Vanagon Camper Van that broke down nearly everytime we drove it; 3. In late 2009 we purchased our first (spankin’ new) class A RV that ended up being a lemon; 4. 02/2011 Purchase of the 2011 Monaco Vesta 32′ class A motorhome.

Having a taste of camping and RV’ing over 10 years we knew exactly what we wanted: A quality RV from a good manufacturer that will withstand our adventure travel across North America dubbed Gone With the Wynns.  We looked at dozens of RV’s online and in person and narrowed it down to our favorite 2 motorhomes manufactured in early 2011:

Tiffin Allegro Breeze 28 foot BR model & Monaco Vesta 32 foot PBS model
It was a difficult decision comparing these great coaches, but here’s the low down on our decision:

Both Motorhomes Offer:

High Quality Manufacturer that stands behind their products
Quality Construction Inside and Out
Custom Chassis built ‘in house’ – allows 1 facility to do repairs on coach and chassis
Single slide
UltraLeather sofas
Comfortable Captains Chairs
Separate Shower and Lavatory
Navistar MaxxForce Engine (No DEF) with Allison Transmission
Full Air Ride Suspension and Brakes
Small Size with high end Class A features
6000 Watt Onan Generator
Large Fresh Water, Grey & Black tanks with heating
Thick, well insulated walls and ceiling
Rear and Side view Cameras
Solid Surface Countertops, Back splash & Tile floors
Pocket Doors, Real Wood cabinets
Fuel Economy: Both are claiming 12-15 MPG but no “official” numbers yet

Monaco Vesta 32 PBS features (+/- ranking):

Price: MSRP beginning at $201,000 (almost fully equipped)
+ Ergonomic “Car-Like” Cockpit for Driver with steering wheel controls
+ Contemporary Styling
+ Wind Tunnel Tested Exterior
+ Simple, Cleanly Designed Exterior Paint Options
+ Extra Large Pantry (can be used as a closet)
+ Integrated Awning (dual & quad awnings optional)
+ Stainless Steel Appliances
+ Desk in place of sleeper sofa (Custom from factory)
+ MCD Pull down day shade and blackout shade
+ Standard Queen size bed
+ Tons of Exterior storage
– Front Engine Diesel (more noise than rear engine)
– Entry Door Lower Quality

Tiffin Allegro Breeze 28 BR features (+/- ranking):

Price: MSRP beginning at $150,000 (base options)

+ Rear Engine Diesel
+ Opposing sofas – better for entertaining
+ White paint option for cabinets – makes coach seem ‘brighter’
+ High Quality Entry Door – Quiet, Solid, Shuts nicely
+ In Wall Dirt Devil Vacuum system
+ Sealed under coach, pass through exterior bins, better for winter (b/c of rear engine)
– Traditional Styling
– Folding Faucet in tiny Sink
– Mini Stove System – like a camp stove
– TV location
– Tiny Convection Oven/Microwave
– Small amount of exterior storage

The final question about our travels across the US in 2011 is usually along these lines: After 1 year, how do you like your 2011 Monaco Vesta 32 foot coach?

Honestly we have loved every minute of our travels across the USALiving full time in a 32 foot RV is comfortable, maybe a little tight, but overall it’s pretty cozy.  Sometimes I wish we had another slide in the bedroom to fit a few more clothes, or think about how nice it would be to take a bath, but those thoughts pass.  What living in the 32 foot Monaco Vesta does allow us far outweighs the ‘wishes’.  A new world every week just outside your door, solitude when you want it, and community when you need a friend.  The people at Monaco Coach have taken care of our every need.  Sure we’ve had to go in for service a few times, but my warranty advisor John makes sure we’re in and out as quickly as possible.  When you purchase a new RV (especially a spankin’ new model like the Vesta) things will break, hinges will jiggle loose, and small problems will arise.  Thankfully our motorhome has treated us well, with minimal issues and good fuel economy (not compared to a prius, but pretty good for it’s size).  Not a day goes by that I dream of going back to our previous lives.

We recently attended the Pomona RV show in California and had the opportunity to view the 2012 models from Tiffen, Winnebago, Fleetwood, Monaco, etc and we’re happy to report after viewing all the new products it’s our honest opinion the Monaco Vesta 32′ RV still stands out as the clear leader in quality and technology.  Of course all these items are our reccomendations, so take it or leave it.

If you have a personal experience with the Monaco Vesta or Tiffin Allegro Breeze please leave a comment below (your email will stay private).  Also please know pricing, options, design is subject to change, these numbers are based on our original findings in early 2011 when we purchased our new motorhome.

Famous for my "how-not-to" videos, and typically the man behind the camera, sometimes I’m forced to be here in the “spotlight”. When you see my face you’re probably reading something more technical than adventurous, but either way I do my best to tell it like it is and infuse my opinions into the commentary…after all this is a blog and not MSN.

Comments (49)

  • We are considering purchasing a 2012 Monaco Vesta 35pbd and will test drive it next Friday. This is a one owner vehicle that has 18,000 miles and has been sitting up for a couple of years because the owner decided he was too old to travel in it.
    We are probably older than most RVers (late 70s) but we are in good health and love to travel with our large dog as well as occasionally with children and grandchildren when they are able to get away. We usually travel 10,000 to 15,000 miles a year.
    Do you have any pointers on what we should consider when we see and drive the unit? This will be our 4th motorhome but it is the first diesel. The layout of the MH is perfect for us and we love the look of it in the photos but we are totally inexperienced with diesel motorhomes.

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  • Alan Barkman

    Hello Wynns,
    I recently purchased a 2011 32′ Vesta. It is very nice but I have serious concerns about the ride and the way it handles. Could it be that my air ride system is not set up right or that the shocks are not working properly

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  • Roger Struthers

    This is late in the game for this forum but my wife and I are purchasing a used 32pbs Trip 2011 with 9000 miles on it.
    I love the look of this thing and have owned 4 different gas class A’s. This will be my first diesel and have been reading a lot about the Maxxforce 7. Issues with the emissons are not a concern because these are not ‘tested’ yearly and there is no issue of ‘failing’ the test. I plan to change all filters and do my diligence in maintenance. Love the low profile, steady tracking on the road and quality of the Holiday Rambler ( have owned one other ). Cummins has built solid engines in the past and I feel good about it. The size is perfect, just wish they had put a small slide in the rear of the 32PBS. Lots of exterior storage and like the idea of the air ride and air leveling. Looking forward to better than 8 mpg.

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  • Robbin Martin

    We are thinking of buying a used 32 ft. 2014 Tiffin Breeze. Some people have adviced us that the diesel engine is a problem. Sounds like you guys are happy. Have you had any problems with the diesel?

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  • Diane Cunningham

    Thanks so much for your views on both! I have been reading reviews about different RV’s and to tell you the truth there is a lot of poor quality out there! I have been the one wanting to do this and my Husband has been
    so reluctant if we end up getting an RV with a lot of issues the story won”t end well. Maneuverability seems key to new RVers so I think the Allegro Breeze might be the way to go. We have friends that owned a Tiffin 40+ft
    and they can’t say enough about Tiffin. Thanks for your thoughts

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  • Donald Wheat

    Read this older post and wondered if the comparison would not have been different if you used the 32′ Breeze; apples to apples. It would seem the breeze might fare better. Good Sailing.

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  • David & Shirley Maase

    Are you still out there? Interesting to note that given our economics, the few Rvs we are looking at include the vary ones you have long ago considered here. Good to also hear the recent positive Breeze comments. Do you have more recent evaluation of the Vesta?

    dlm

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    • Karen Webster

      Shirley,
      This is Karen Webster one of your previous students from Kadena… we are looking at a Tiffin Breeze too. I hope we run across you and your husband someday! Did you go with the Breeze?

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  • Mike

    Hello. Enjoy your articles. While I am sure your coach is great for you, we own a 32′ 2011 Allegro Breeze and in one word, it has been EXCELLENT! We’ve camped all our life’s, from tents to travel trailers, to 3 different motor homes. The 32′ Allegro Breeze has been the BEST coach we have ever owned. We have not had a single problem with the coach since new. We are not full timers, but travel every summer for two to three months. We’ve put over 60,000 miles on our coach and other than oil and filters, t has been trouble free. Fuel mileage is in the low teens and very comfortable. Love it.

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  • Michael McGrath

    Hello,
    My wife and I are retired and traveling without children or pets. We logged over 20,000 miles the past year. Our first motor home was a Coach House Platinum 232. Currently we have a Lazy Daze 26.5. We have no desire to pull a toad. Maneuverability is critical. We are not full timers yet.
    Considering moving to 30-34′ range(with permanent bed). What would you consider to be the optimum length without sacrificing maneuverability?
    Thanks,
    Michael

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  • Michael McGrath

    Hello,
    My wife and I are retired and traveling without children or pets. We logged over 20,000 miles the past year. Our first motor home was a Coach House Platinum 232. Currently we have a Lazy Daze 26.5. We have no desire to pull a toad. Maneuverability is critical. We are not full timers yet.
    Considering moving to 30-34′ range(with permanent bed). What would you consider to be the optimum length without sacrificing maneuverability?
    Thanks,
    Michael

    Michael

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  • Steve frasiolas

    The trip and the Vesta look so similar is the trip as good as the Vesta

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    • They are very similar with just a few differences. Both are great coaches.

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  • Steve frasiolas

    When they are going to start making the Vesta again

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    • I don’t think they will make the Vesta again…which is sad. We loved ours.

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  • Steve frasiolas

    I would like to know if they still make 35 foot that’s
    MONACO VESTA

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    • MD

      No, the Vesta was obsolete within two years. Navistar produced a noncompliant EPA engine suffered numerous class action suits and sold the brand-name Monaco to REV at a substantial loss. Navistar produced this product for only two years with very disappointing sales, today it is obsolete.

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  • Rosie

    PS. I enjoy cooking. I got an induction burner to use. I actually prefer to cook smelly things outdoors using induction burner and/or weber gas grill. If I must cook indoors I would prepare something less aromatic

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  • Rosie

    to the Johnsons; we purchased a new 2015 earlier this year and we love it. It has everything we need however if I were full timing it I would love a washer/dryer. We immediately had some issues with our engine exhaust, became a worry as a newbie, but Tiffin was responsive to our needs. Even Bob Tiffin called us back! Just remember once you purchase engine issues go to a trucking type repair center and not the dealer. Happy Trails!

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  • James and Jennifer Johnson

    Hello Wynns! We are so excited to “meet” you, as we seem to be very kindred spirits. We did our first RV trip in 2010, traveling from the Florida Keys and ending in North Carolina via the outer edge of the US (LA, TX, UT, CO, CA, OR, WA, IN, OH, ME, NY, NJ, etc.) We were on the road for 6 months and it was our very first RV experience, so we were conservative and purchased a 2005 Coachman Concord 275; it suited us perfectly well for first timers, but we certainly learned a lot, like the incredible importance of auto-leveling jacks (those bright orange leveling blocks are for the birds)!

    We are just now transitioning into becoming Full Time RVers and are very attracted to the 2014/2015 Tiffin Allegro Breeze 32. Everything we have heard about Tiffin, not only as a product, but also as a computer/customer service, has been excellent. It is just the two of us, so we feel the space is ample and seems 4 times bigger than our Concord was with the opposing slides. My only concern is the small cooktop; I love to cook, but I also love to cook outdoors, so maybe this will force me to expand my “open fire/grilling” recipes.

    I just want to thank you for posting this blog. We have learned so much about how to start our life as Full-Timers and we are excited and confident it will be an amazing adventure!

    We hope to meet on the way as we both continue our travels!

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  • Lois

    We love our 2011 Allegro Breeze 28BR! The interior white cabinets were a great plus for both of us (Maui design). The rear diesel and projected mpg were the main selling points. We bought it from a private seller couple–one wanted to sell it, the spouse didn’t! You can never be sure of a selling reason, therefore we didn’t ask. But we have had no issues with it and it performs very well. It was pampered, perfect condition and has many extras.

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  • Vernon Finch

    Thanks for the blogs. Really, really helpful.
    I am looking to purchase a 2011 Tiffin Alegro Breeze 32.
    Was worried about the Maxforce engine too, but I am now cool with it, but wont put on a lot of miles. Will sell before I reach 100K miles.
    Thanks guys, especially for the mpg info.
    P.S. I was getting 16 mpg on my Sprinter-Winnebago View.
    Good luck to y’all.
    Vernon Finch,
    Langley, BC, Canada.
    14.10.23

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  • Glenda

    Wow. Just found your web site. Awesome. Thank you.
    My husband and I have been traveling with a fifth wheel for over six years. Yes, we are retired. We do not want to be full timers. We are ready to trade our 2010 Cameo by Carriage 37.5 fully loaded fifth wheel for a very small class B or C. We would love a leisure van with the murphy bed but feel that is more than we want to spend although I love the floor plan. Large bath, disappearing bed and tv. It doesn’t get much better than that. We hoping to find something in the twenty-four range. Any suggestions? Thanks and happy travels.

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    • Vernon Finch

      Hi, Glenda;
      What was your experience with the Carriage Cameo?
      What did you tow it with?
      Still looking,
      Vernon & Marielle.
      Langley, BC, Canada
      14.10.23

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  • Fred

    I have a 32 ft Breeze and just returned round trip from Southern California to San Antonio Texas. Our mileage was great as we kept our speeds about 62. Power and handling was better this time out. I made sure tire pressure was at manufacturer settings. We got about 12 mpg.

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  • Julie Bennett

    Thanks everyone for these comments. They are very useful! We just spent the day looking at the Tiffin Breeze 32 (loved it) and also the Allegro 31SA – REALLY like this floor plan with the L-shape sofar opposite tv and optional fireplace. Also option for computer workstation instead of dinette – which would work better for us and more basement storage. So this probably has the edge right now. But we do love the ivory cabinet option in the Breeze, looks so much nicer, lighter and more modern! We also liked the Bounder 33C and Bounder Classic 34M. (3 slides). Only the Breeze is diesel, the other 3 are gas, but based on our discussion with the sales guy and a few other rv owners, we think the gas could work just fine for us – and be much more affordable. Would welcome any further comments from others who have experience with any of these RVs! Thanks again and have a great day!

    (Ps. We had been considering the Damon Avanti as well, but haven’t been inside one and are not so sure anymore, after today’s positive experienced with the Tiffin and Bounder rigs)

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  • bugslinger

    I own a 4winds 2011 Serrano with the front mounted maxforce 7 engine. What is liquid urea and what do I do to meet California emissions. I just renewed my registration and no smog cert was needed but I think they are required every-other renewal. Is it time to sell?

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  • Bruce

    So how do you feel now that Monaco has stopped making the Vesta and it has had huge problems!

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  • M. Dail

    Has anyone out there experienced any concerns with bed heat emanating from the RED in the Allegro Breeze 32BR (or 28 for that matter)? We are considering purchasing one and this is one area of concern for us. Thanks.

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    • I am going to post this on our twitter and facebook pages to see if anyone there has any help for you.

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  • John

    I too am looking at both coaches but am concerned about the Maxforce 7 engine, do you have any information about them?

    Thanks

    John

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  • Lee

    I love the 35′ Vesta’s interior, ergonomics, fuel mileage and looks but really wish it was rear engined. I also prefer Cummins power over the Navistar engine I know nothing about. For that reason I’ll likely end up with a 5-6 year old Newmar Dutch Star or Mountain Aire. Depreciation and bugs will also be worked out by then too. I still do really like the Vesta though…

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  • Harry

    Can’t imagine preferring the Damon over the 32 Breeze we bought the 32 breeze and it is great only 4500 miles pulling a smart car 12.5 mpg once broke in i’m sure it will get 14-16 in addition I have driven diesel front engine coaches and can’t imagine the sound in the Damon other than that i assume not a lot of difference oh price of Breeze i believe is a little cheaper

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  • Harry

    Not sure why you would compare a 32 with a 28 when the Allegro breeze comes in a 32 also

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  • PS… the biys in my email stands for “Believe In Your Self”

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  • We recently purchased the 32’ Breeze and had the same challenge deciding between it and the Vesta. We liked the combination of the traditional and modern design of the 32’ Breeze, but for us, the final decision for the Breeze was the rear engine. Also, the 32’ Breeze has the full size queen as well. Love you guys… I’ve learned so much from you and follow your adventures every day.

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