Buying a Sailboat – Survey, Haul Out and Sea Trial
We’re quickly learning the boat buying process is just that…a process! Seriously, I think it might be more complex than purchasing our house in Dallas.
Much like the home buying process has an inspection to make sure you don’t have any crazy weird electrical issues or major foundation problems, boats go through a similar quality check process called the survey and sea trial.
We’ve been told over and over that when it comes time to buy a boat we need to get a really good surveyor and be present for the survey to make sure all ends of the boat are inspected. So, here we are taking the advice of those that have come before us.
Once our offer had been accepted on the boat, we sent emails to our fellow sailing friends asking for an honest and thorough boat surveyor recommendation. When a guy named Brian Stetler came up more than once, we figured it was a good sign so we decided to hire him for the job. That’s right, it’s the responsibility of the buyer to hire and pay for the boat survey.
Now that we had our surveyor picked out we needed to pick a marina for the haul out and make sure the boat was there and waiting at least 12 hours in advance so the engines had plenty of time to cool down before the survey began. This is how we ended up sailing our dream boat from Vero Beach to Ft. Lauderdale with John, the current owner of “Reset”. (P.S. It’s a 2005 Leopard 43 Owners Version)
Considering we’re sailboat buying newbies, we had no idea what to expect. I don’t know if you’ve ever experienced a survey before or not, but for us it was an incredibly interesting experience and we learned a lot!
It was an action packed day spent hunting for problems…and I even got my hands dirty down in the engine room. So grab your plastic hammer, shop rags and your wallet…its survey time!
Pretty in depth right?!? Our brains were total mush by the end of the day and our pocket book was down a couple of grand but it felt 100% worth it. Once we got that survey back we had a good sense of what we were getting ourselves into. Not only that but we now had a little bargaining power for negotiating the purchase price down a little more.
Finding a Surveyor
There is an organization called SAMS (Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors) that has listings for surveyors and is a good place to start. However, we always like getting a good recommendation from a friend. If you don’t know anyone in the boating world that might have a good recommendation…that’s where blogs and forums come in handy. It doesn’t take long after posting a question before the responses start flowing. If you were looking for one in the Ft. Lauderdale or Jupiter area then we would recommend Brian Stetler. He was recommended to us and we thought he did a great job.
What a lot of heartache a service like this could save in the RV world. Perhaps someone should start SARVS (Society of Accredited Recreational Vehicles Surveyors)? Maybe not the best acronym but still a good idea! Imagine having a host of pros at your fingertips to help you decide whether or not to buy that half million dollar used Prevost (or that ’72 Winnebago)!
Crazy thing is, we’ve talked to all kinds of people who decided to survey their own boat or worse, forgo the survey all together. Most of those people we talked to who “self-surveyed” had some very nasty surprises waiting for them after a few months of ownership. Unless you are an expert, or an incredibly seasoned boater, not hiring a good surveyor sounds like a big roll of the dice to me…but to each their own.
Survey Report & Oil Analysis
We received a full 20 page report filled with details and photos from Brian but you don’t want to sift through that. To give you an idea of what all the survey found, here is the 4 page summary. We also included a portion of the oil analysis for the port and starboard engines. I am not sure what it all means other than the part that said normal. We just took Brian’s word for it when he said it came back all clear.
Buying A Sailboat Phase 2
While we’re waiting to hear back on our counter offer there is much to be done. We’ve got to get insurance in place, make sure the money is ready to go, hire a documenter, figure out registration, pick a name for the boat and I am sure a ton more we haven’t even thought about. Luckily, we have Kent to help guide us through all the steps so we don’t miss anything. If we do, we will blame it on him ’cause that’s what brokers are for, right? 🙂
Yes, we do have sailing lessons lined up and will share much more about those in the coming weeks. In the meantime, if you are in the Ft. Lauderdale area and a captain…we would love to go sailing with you. We will gladly provide your caffeine fix for a morning sail or your beverage of choice for sundowners. 😉
So…what did you think of the survey? Got any fantastic boat name ideas for us? Share your thoughts with us in the comments below.
Disclaimer: None of this is a paid endorsement. There’s no affiliation, compensation, sponsorship or discounts with Kent our broker, Just Catamarans, Brian the Survey guy or any sailing brand, boat or product.
Really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work and keep on sharing!
Im looking at a similar boat as yours and I was wondering what your offer was the leopards are very hard to find at the moment especially owners versions you are very lucky
If you go to the sailing page there’s a tab for “sailboat shopping” that has all the related vids on why they wanted a cat, why an owners’ versions, etc. This particular post deals with all the costs: https://www.gonewiththewynns.com/exhausting-journey-buying-cruising-sailboat
I just recently stumbled onto your YouTube site and I can say that this is the best boating substance/adventure site I have ever watched. I am currently watching everything from the beginning in order. I cannot tell you how much I REALLY enjoy watching the dynamics of your adventure. I am a to be land lacked boat owner/sailor. There is something about the relationship that the two of you have that uplifts and edifies. Be safe out there and enjoy your adventure…I sure am.
After watching the thorough approach Brian took in surveying your new boat, I can only say that I wish there were Brian’s in the RV industry. Buying a used RV in any price category is such a crap shoot, it would offer much relief and peace of mind to have an expert go over it like Brian went over your boat.
Tell me about it! That is EXACTLY what we thought.
Dan and Linda
Hello, Dan and I have both enjoyed your videos on youtube. We have been planning our journey for 3 years….studiying, researching and planning for our retirement. We are in about the same situation as you regarding insurance on our cat. We have basically no real experience and have hired a captain to teach us on our own vessel. Lloyds of London is saying we need a captain for a year. Our question is how are you getting around this? Would very much like to hear from you. Fellow old newbees Dan and Linda.
We are taking sailing courses (just finished this weekend). We now have our 101, 103, 104 and 114 ASA certifications. We did this through Bluewater Sailing School and their A+ Cat course. It’s face paced course but gets you something on paper to send over. Then, we have to have a captain sign off saying we are capable sailors. I am sure each case is unique so speak with your insurance broker about options.
Boat Name: Get a Clew
A name for your boat, “Serendipity Dreams”
That was supposed to be “Cast-Aboard” (And now I’m watching the video where you are about to reveal the name you chose… … … Curiosity.) Cool!
Boatie-McBoat-Face? Nikki Nikki Nine knots? Cast About? SeaRV? (Opposite of Land Yacht?)
Ha ha…I love all these!
A name for the boat “GONE WITH THE WINDS”
Great videos. Just starting our dream of boat ownership as well. Our catamaran sets sail from France next week!
You need to name the boat “Fair Wynns”
Fair Winds and Following Seas!
Question about what you were talking about having to extend your time in Florida for 180 days and costing you money and you then can’t come back for 6 months…… What is that all about?
“An owner who intends to use his vessel in Florida longer than 90 days must register it with a county tax collector.”
Too many people were bringing their boats to FL and never registering (or leaving).
Congratulations Jason & Nikki ! I’m happy for the both of you. Be careful out there on the hi seas.
Happy Sailing ! & BON VOYAGE !!
I would love to go sailing with you and pay you for letting me go sailing with you.
I don’t have interest at this time to sail the open sea, however I’m thoroughly enjoying watch you two go through the process of finding an purchasing a boat. I’m learning a ton. Whether it be RVing or Sailing you both are wonderful at sharing your lessons. Thank you, and happy sailing!
Opinions and boat names. “ALL IN” Of course I have no idea how you feel about the casino reference. You are going all in, however you name her.
I am a long time fan. As an RVer myself can I ask what you use for skin care? I got the powder sunscreen you recommended and its great. You are always so beautiful and I don’t have the access or space to sample a lot of skin care lines! I trust your recommendation, always have!
Awe, way to butter me up! I rotate products depending on what I can get my hands on and based on our budget. My all time favorite is a line called Eminence Organics and they are based out of Vancouver BC. They have the best moisturizers and they come in larger sizes so you are not running out every month. Lots of spas carry their line, its sold on their website and you can find some of it on Amazon. Other than that I like a few brands that you can find at the occasional target or health food store. Acure, Yes to and Shea Moisture.
Oh thank you for replying! I think I am going to purchase the Eminence Chamomile cleanser and the Coconut Age Moisturizer and hope I can look half as good as you 😉 They do have quite a few products to choose from!! I think I love them all! And shea butter is great too!
I love a few of the names suggested. With a name like Wynn, it works perfectly for a sailboat. We are long time boaters (small and with a motor) but have always loved being on the water. I really enjoyed the survey. He did an amazing job and I’m sure it was well worth the $2k you spent. I’m looking forward to your next post and following along with your new life.
“WynnSong “sounds very poetic . Come up with a sentence that includes the name and say it over and over. You’ll know pretty quick which ones NOT to use, Ron & Jodie Ray in S.C.
Mark & Elizabeth Tinkler (The Tinks)
One thing to consider when choosing a name. In the cruising community it is not uncommon to be know by you first name followed by your boat’s name instead of your real last name. Or possibly by just your boat’s name. Soon to be following you aboard our own floating retirement home. Good luck. Realyy enjoy your videos.
Don & Linda Miles
Hello from a former boater. Having lived aboard boats for a time both sail and power, it is a venture for sure. There are pros and cons to a multi-hulled boat especially, if one is going off shore. I would opt for a single hull if going to cross oceans, not as roomy but less likely to flip over in big seas. If you are still looking at boats check out the 40ft Nordhavn trawler that has circled the world several are available. http://www.nordhavn.com and yachtworld have listings some in Europe. Also, check out the u-tube Nordhavn Atlantic rally video of the Atlantic crossing , it will give you some food for thought in planning and safety. We wish you luck and success in your ventures.
Unless you haven’t, i suggest, you read the book : The Voyager’s Handbook – Beth Leonard. 2nd Edition
This is pretty much the bible for sailing. Very well written and informative book.
I would also suggest, you have sailing friends on board when doing ocean crossings.
This way you will have the needed help. Keep spare parts for most things that break so
that you won’t have to depend on sea tow or whatever.
Greetings, Wynn’s, I have followed your adventures for about 2 years now. During that time I purchased a new Thor Miramar motor coach. My wife and I are now full timing in it, currently in the Santa Fe, NM area.
About your lament: “What a lot of heartache a service like this could save in the RV world. Perhaps someone should start SARVS (Society of Accredited Recreational Vehicles Surveyors)? Maybe not the best acronym but still a good idea! Imagine having a host of pros at your fingertips to help you decide whether or not to buy that half million dollar used Prevost (or that ’72 Winnebago)!” There is already such an organization, it is the National RV Inspectors Association, of which I am a member. There is an associated referral site for NRVIA accredited inspectors, who have agreed to a cod of conduct, and standards for inspections. See http://www.rvinspectionconnection.com, if you want additional information. Mention my name, Julian Buck, for any referrals.
I wish you two happy and safe sailing.
Good luck…. My survey on an IP 31 is 5/5 and my eyes are just beginning to spin. Can’t wait for this to be done and hopefully sailing S/V Maretine by Memorial Day. Fair winds and following seas.
Hi Jason and Nikki,
Long time follower and fellow boater here. The boat you selected looks like a great choice! May I suggest if no one has already done so that you apply for a Port Supply account at West Marine. Your current business or LLC should qualify you, particularly since your boat will be an integral part of your livelihood. As a Port Supply customer you’ll save something on most everything and often a LOT on boat maintenance items. Ask your broker about the program.
I hope this helps.
How about Wynndy or Wyndy for your sailboat name.
How about Wynn D?
Here’s hoping you have the foresight and dignity to give your new craft a serious, well-conceived moniker: something along the lines of Saily McSailface. After all, comedy is serious business.
I like Bruce and Marilin Kane’s name they posted. Wynnsail. It just fits.
Thom Colby - 888-391-5245
Hello Nikki and Jason or (Jason and NIkki) – got to be polically correct, right? LOL. I am so happy for you both at the progress you are making on the next chapter of your lives together. I guess I did the reverse of what you are doing. I had a 35′ Carver (“stinkpot”)bought new in 2000 and sold in 2003. I went through the Survey when I sold it and like you it was a great experience for the buyer and even as the Seller. I had lots of issues during my ownership whichhad to be corrected by the factory, including the replacement of both engines within 2 weeks of each other and replacement of both shafts and props. Over $50,000 in repairs but it got done over a 6 month timeframe. You have many tasks ahead but it will be fun as you make the transition to full-time boating. These may seem like big tasks but they are pretty typical and easily accomplished with the help of your broker. Now, (as you’ve heard me say before) I want to buy YOUR Bounder 🙂 so maybe a word to Fleetwood would help?
#BlueSkies&TailWynns or #WynnsAway
Wishing you all the best as you move ahead.
Thanks Thom for the encouragement! We will be taking our technology with us so once that is all stripped off, it will be a bounder like most others (but pre-wired for solar). They were not interested in selling it with the technology (the tech is ours and they didn’t want to buy it from us) and we can use it on the boat. If you are still interested in buying it, shoot me an email ([email protected]) and I will connect you with them.
Thom Colby - 888-391-5245
Thanks – just sent you an e-mail 🙂
Suggestion for a name:
Love from Holland.
Remember, when deciding on your boat name, select on that you will be proud to say over and over again on the marine radio. Nothing to Disney. Something strong, that will turn heads and perk ears.
Thank you for sharing with us.
#TailWynns, #WynnsWest, #PrevailingWynns (my favorite)
Another boat name.
Jason n Nikki,
I really enjoyed your videos! You guys are doing the right things when buying sail boat! But also put yourselves in danger without knowing it when you follow Shale out to sea in his not well maintain boat. Like you, I was shopping for cat a few years back. But I met my wife n came a daughter and all the dreams put in back burner. Your enthusiasm on sailing is contagious!! But I’m also quite worried about your safety. Owning n maintaining a sail boat is very different from having an RV. Prior to my decision to buy a sail boat, I’ve been on multiple different kind of boat island hopping in the Caribbean and in the Andaman n South China Sea. One thing I have to prepared myself is I’ll be spending A LOT OF TIME doing maintenance work. The salty environment is not friendly to most thing man made. Electrical switches, metal joints, screw, nuts etc, can go bad is a few short months, even when they are brand new. And sometimes, there is no sign or warning ahead… Just like you had experience with Shale. In an RV, you can just call AAA, drive your SMART into town etc. But in a cat in the middle of the ocean…… with no electrical power n no communication and no immediate help…. can be very challenging to stay alive. My humble suggestion would be taking sailing lesson for sailing cat. Then live aboard n sail only the coastal water before embarking further. We never think twice driving an RV 10 miles or 20 miles into no man’s land for boondocking, but 10 miles away from the shore for a sail boat can sometimes mean life and death situation…. anyway you probably think I say too much. I’m very sorry. I like you guys n really concern about your safety. You are smart couple and I’m sure you will be very diligence when come to safety n planning and would not take chances. Safe sailing. If you need more info from an old salt, feel free to email me.
Something off on a tangent here, found this lady on IBM website looks just like the older version of Nikki.
Renaming the boat can be a very fun ritual that we would love to see a video of you two performing. It does involve alcohol.
The “ritual” that Greg is referring to is not an option with a re-name. It is absolutely, no excuses, required by the laws of the sea. Failure to do it completely and properly can/will result in very very bad luck.as opposed to your due-diligence to the procedure which will allow the gods of the sea (Neptune, Charlie Tuna, Etc.) to shower you with years of fun and good fortune with your newly named yacht.
Duly noted! We will make sure to do it right!
WynnJammer, Fair Wynns (a take on “fair winds and following seas”), Against the Wynns, WynnSwept, WynnRider, WynnStar, WynnAgain, WynnSong, WynnSail.
Mike and Jan Duvalk
Hi, my wife and I were invited to sail on a 2011 Leoard 38 for 57 days. We sailed from Punta Gorda to the Abacose Islands in the Bahamas. We had a wonderful time and we would like to do it again but that trip cured me from ever wanting to live on a sail boat.
Good Luck with your adventure.
Mike and Jan
When I was seriously considering living on a sail boat many years ago, we had dinner with a former Navy Seal. We had a long conversation about the living on the water life style. He had been through some very adverse weather conditions over many years. His comment to me was that “Mother Nature was a Bitch!” and that he would never consider living on a boat because of what he had been through. One man’s opinion, but it got my attention. I was not able to make the transition like you guys are due to debt, kids, etc. However, if I was young with no kids, and had the means to make it happen, I would still go for it.
It would be interesting to know how you managed the significant increase over budget, may help those who come after you, which I believe is something you have been providing throughout your journey. And you have been doing a darn good job of it, I know I have learned a lot! OK on to the name, I don’t have anything that hasn’t already been suggested but I do like the idea of either keeping it Gone with the Wynns or adding something to the end like Gone with the Wynns II, I know you two can come up with something better than just adding II. Keep in mind you have built a brand on that name, one that literally thousands upon thousands are familiar with, I wouldn’t just let it go. Best of luck, and safe journey’s.
More names: Win-Wynns. Wynning (with apologies to Charlie Sheen). Wynner Wynner Chicken Dynner. Wynnjammer. Playing to Wynn. Tropical Wynns. Tradewynns. Wynns at Our Back. Wynndward. Or, since you’re going from a RV to a boat: Wynns of Change
You can rename a boat but you have to do it properly…google it and a dozen sites will come up and all tell you pretty much the same thing…you will have to rid the boat of its current name and EVERYTHING in it with that name on it including the logbook, etc…..its a pain in the rear…but do it !! DO NOT piss off the sea God…bad things will happen if you do….lol. HAVE FUN!!!!
Bruce and Mariline Kane
My wife like the sound of “Wynnsail” for your boat
” Boaty McBoatface”
Just kidding!…It’s a Twitter thing.
Considered Bad luck to re-name a boat.
Bad luck? Perhaps if you are doing it because of argument (tax fight, divorce, partnership squabble) but not for new owners.
Thank you for sharing all your adventures.
Boar name suggestions….
Sail close to the Wynns. Sure as the Wynns blow
Why change the name? Gone with the Wynns is better for a boat than an RV. Especially the SEO factor that is pretty awesome, First page 7th link for “RV modifications” I’m sure you’re first page for many phrases and keywords. Changing your name would at a min cause the current name to lose relevance. That inspector was awesome, he definitely knows boats. If the owner doesn’t want to drop down anymore I wouldn’t sweat it, it is still an awesome boat in beautiful condition, inspector just happens to be like crazy good at his job, and really if it’s something that needs replaced in a couple years it’s not that bad.
Congrats guys, you are going to have an awesome once in a lifetime experience as a daily way of life.
My husband said how about naming your boat Blowin by the Wynns good luck with your new adventure looking forward to your updates
T C Spencer
When do you have to return your test RV to the Fleetwood factory in Decatur, IN ?
Land to Sea
Todays sailing lesson: http://www.latitude38.com/wisdom.html
With best wishes on your next adventure!
Nice video, it was nice to see that surveyor seemed very competent. Was this the same Leopard that you previewed in your Sailboat shopping video’s previously?
Fair Wynns and Following Seas. Or just Fair Wynns for short
Wynn’s with the Wind
Should say DEnaming/renaming…
We are boaters, now going RVing. I was curious about your boat buying status. Haven’t read everything, but did see your comment re naming the boat. Also, I have not read all the comments, so do not know if anyone has brought this up. Sailors are very superstitious about renaming a boat! You should not take it lightly. Years ago a fellow came up with a renaming/renaming ceremony. His name is John Vigor, just look for it online, or search for another. But his has been around a long time.
Hi Jason and Nikki, you guys absolutely amaze me! Good luck with your sailing adventure! I am still sad about having had to sell Windy. Since January I am living on the Spanish island of Mallorca. My health issues that forced me to sell Windy are pretty much under control. ? All the best to you, Bernard
How about fair wynns for the boat name?
Stoked for you!!
Should call your new boat ” BIG RIG “
Looking good! I say go for it!!
William (Bill) Weaver
Watching a master of their trade do their thing is something to behold. You got to video and be at his side as he checked the important elements of the boat. Yes it was expensive, but consider it as tuition in your learning process. As for the boat’s name, is there a question? A sail boat and NOT “Gone with the Wynns” are you kidding me? Pack your dry bags, because it looks like you are going sailing.
Wynn’s in the Wind!!
Hope you guys can post/ chat about how to learn engine repair when out to sea and other maintenance tidbits for the novice.
I am sooo jealous! I wish you guys all the best on your next adventure!
Keep your name “Going With The Wynns” as a boat name…. it fits perfectly!!
I think “Windy II” would be fitting for the name!
Wow, that is a lot of money before your even get started! I’m curious, if the owner does not negotiate and you decide not to purchase the boat, you are out the $2,000+ and you start over? Ouch!! I hope the problems are insignificant enough that it all makes sense! Fingers crossed for you!!!
Serendipity! Good luck, fingers are crossed that it works out fine!
Doug and Erica Walsh
How about “WynnSong” for your boat name?
Seems like having a sailboat is a lot of work. I am so glad that you detail out the process for us to see. It looks totally worth the trouble, when seeing the photos and video of the sea trial.
So ridiculously excited for you guys, and the progress you’re making on living YOUR dreams!
Thanks Cherie! Hopefully we can take you guys out for a sunset cruise when you get back from your cruise!
Mike and Kelly Thompson
My wife recommends “Wynns in your Sails”. Looks like a great boat.
We bought a 10 year old 40 foot trawler style boat last year and are glad we made the investment in having a proper survey done like you did. I couldn’t be present for the survey but my husband was. Unfortunately I tend to be the hands-on one when it comes to maintenance and troubleshooting. Your time with the owner and the surveyer – especially during problem solving – will be invaluable. You were actually lucky to have things go wrong. The interesting thing about boats – as opposed to cars – is that all the systems are separate, made by different manufacturers and not necessarily designed to work together. So it is complex trying to sort out things like batteries and chargers and inverters and generators (does your boat have one?) and engines and toilets, etc. I guess the RV world is somewhat similar but I find it overwhelming at times. Good luck negotiating for some dollars off your purchase price. You will need them later on!
Sounds like the first half of the survey went well. Now it sounds like you need to get the standing rigging done by someone equally skilled in rigging.
Owning, Living aboard full time out in the Caribbean (i.e. not in a marina but out there between islands) a similar cat also with shaft drives I know a few things about what I’d be most interested in with a survey.
1. Rigging, I saw the survey barely touched on one of the most important parts of the boat, the standing rigging. Catamarans do not heel and spill off excess wind like a mono so gusts hit the the sails and the rigging must take it or break. You do not want the latter. You will be out there and wind will come out of nowhere and you need to have confidence in that rigging.
2. That water in the bilge. Yes, it should be dry, completely dry. Mine was and if any water did appear in there I knew where it came from. In my case condensation from the fridge and rainwater made it down there. It was also quickly taken out by the new bilge pumps in the keels. Any water in the engine compartment area should be identified and the leak stopped. Those no drip seals have a life of 500hrs I believe. Ours were a volvo part. FWIW You are supposed to grease them by pinching it and squeezing in grease. A straw works great with practice.
Also FWIW You’d be surprised all the little things that when you read the manuals say grease, change, lube, check every XX hours or each time you go somewhere. It’s almost impractical but that is what they say to do. If you can access both engines without tearing apart a bed all the better.
3. Exhaust. Get that fixed. Immediately. Salt water is hell on things. Eventually it wins. Leaks underway spray that horrible stuff all around and will ruin other things. A bad leak can become a big problem. That elbow where the exhaust meets the engine and the raw water to coolant heat exchanger should be taken apart and verify the metal isn’t rusted away and an o-ring is all that’s keeping the water in. Easy to take apart really considering the alternative. Heat exhangers are expensive.
You want those motors to start and run as you found out. You want to trust that rigging when the wind is forecast 15kts and you get 20-25kts and have to reef, reef again.
I feel like since we went so far and never slept off the boat it was similar to moving into an RV full time. You learn a lot more faster than the casual RVer or those who keep their boat in a slip. Going back to the slip wasn’t an option for us for over a year.
You are in repair heaven and parts heaven. Get it all done now while the prior owner can share or even pay for it (subtract from asking price). Piece of mind is everything. Just look at that 2005 410S2 owner and his issues after the purchase. Likely his survey went well also.
There are two boats I’d really consider great buys. One is a boat that barely left the slip but was maintained fanatically. Sounds like this is the one you’re buying. So, just get the 3 things addressed you have a new boat.
Gone In The Wynns
Alice & Bernie Gilles
It’s awesome enjoying the adventure through the Wynnward Swashbucklers 🙂
Love your site but will miss the rv part but excited about the new adventure!!
How about “Wynn in the Sails”. Just a suggestion lol
name it Tara, like the house in Gone With the Wind!
Something to think about purchasing for your new Cataman— Lifeline Netting
Lifeline Netting ~
Rugged nylon netting keeps kids, head-sails, crew and pets (your cats) aboard.
Nets are 2’H and install with Safety Netting Clips onto your Lifelines.
wAre there special safety precautions or recommendations for travelling with animals? I know that is down the road, but soon enough!
I have followed you for a long time and admire your conviction to keep sharing your adventures, both good and bad.
I thought you might consider Wynnsome as your lady’s new name.
I forgot to tell you that changing the name without doing the name changing ritual which others had suggested is very bad luck…. MAKE SURE YOU DO IT! We even went as far as having a virgin pee on the forward deck too… sounds funny but bad MoJo is not too funny. 🙂
-Queen Elizabeth III
Good luck to you both! It’s an exciting life you’re going to be leading.
Into the Wynns
The perfect Boat name for you all is … “Segway” ~~ which in your case means: to make a transition from one thing (RVing) to another (Sailing) smoothly and without interruption.
So glad that you went withe the full survey…. like you said a lot of people don’t and then get a big surprise after they own it. I always had a surveya nd Haul out but never had the engine oils done cuz my Cat had an outboard with additional kicker.
Remember the Happiest days in a Boat owners life is the day you buy it and then the day you sell it! LOL
Absolutely ” Wynns” keep your name.
“Calm Wynns” or maybe “Southern Wynns” even if for nothing but a laugh….”Dead Wynns”. Love you guys and enjoy your heartfelt adventures. From one Texan to another….thank you for making those videos memories we all share together.
David and Dawn Maranville
Love your stories and the learning experience that has taught us all so much. We being Alaskans really enjoyed your last trip to visit our state. As for your boat name I suggest the ‘Wynnward’. Spelled with your name makes it all the better. If you should ever make it back to Alaska on land or water we would love to make contact with you. We are in-state RV’rs with a wish to go outside this fall. You make us itch to try the adventure. Good luck with yours and may all your ski’s be blue.
This is great guys! It is cool to learn about this prosess. Plus being so entertained! I will think about some names and get back to you. This is so much fun!! I am SUPER happy for you!?
Name? Gone With The Wynns
R R F
For a name: how about Sweet Dream?
How about “Cat Nappin’ “? Or “Just Cattin’ Around”?
Congrats! Your boat is beautiful! Can’t wait to see your new adventures! Question…. Where will you park your car?
Hi there Jason and Nikki. This is Smokin Jim, one of your biggest fans. I’m sad that you’re leaving Terra Firma behind, but at the same time I’m a bit jealous of your courage, strength, and “Go Get ‘Em” attitude. That is something I wish I had had when I was your age. So, considering your new adventure, I have a song about sailing I loved when I was a child (in the 60s, when everything was still black and white) and, though I doubt you will find it as fun and charming as I have, perhaps you will understand that I am sending it with the best intentions for your continued good fortune and fun, and for the whimsy I see so abundantly in the both of you.
With respect and fun living,
Smokin Jim (of MyKDAN online radio)
I learned a valuable piece of information a couple of house purchases ago. Hire your own inspector/surveyor. That way he is working for you, not just trying to please the broker. It saved me a big chunk on a house with lots of problems. As for a name… Wynndy!!!.
I will still be RVing, but I plan to continue to follow you and your adventures. Best of luck on your new home.
“Cat Trick” – word play on Hat Trick, or three goals in hockey, (three cats) get it?
Don’t think I will ever be in the market for a boat. But very informative.
Still look at your RV videos for insight. Do you have to return the Bounder to the factory?
Name suggestion….Fortune. then you could be known as the Wynns of Fortune.
Fair winds and happy sailing!
Hoe about “The Three Cats” ?
Or how about “The Cat House?”
Just so everyone knows, there are now RV inspectors. There’s a company that started up not too long ago for just that purpose, I heard about them at the Hershey RV show last year.
Joe the computer guy
Me thinks you guys know something you are not sharing with us.
FL is a small state ya know??? Tampa is just west of you guys and said boat
Just sayin 😉
Waitin for that next video. Don’t make us wait toooooo long.
We’re all pullin fer ya!
You’ve already invested so much in your current name (brand?) “Gone with the Wynns.”
It’s just that your next adventures will be on water instead of land. No need to change the name.
Whatever you decide to call her, best of luck and thanks for including us!
Jeff & Juli
I saw it was already recommended on FB “Fair Wynns”, I was going to recommend the same because it is a way of saying good luck and speaks of it’s owners. Hope it all works out for you, even if you are leaving the land we enjoy viewing your adventures and can’t wait to see how Singa and Cleo take to the waters.
How about “Fair Wynns” short for Fair winds and following seas, a sailor’s well wishes.
Very nice job you guys. I’m amazed at how quickly you’re picking things up. Trust me, your extensive experience with RVs will help immensely. So many of the systems are exactly the same. That was a great survey. And, yes, the first time you showed us that boat, it was sweet. I hope the deal goes through. You’re doing everything right. I had this dream once, and I am so excited that I get to live it through you guys. I really felt like I was right there on the water. My family used to have a house in Vero Beach. Just one suggestion: you could probably hang your Smart Car on those davits 😉 Just throw an outboard on the back of the Smart Car. Could work as long as you keep it up on the plane. Definitely like Wynndy!
Gotta keep the brand going. Several good choices so far. Here’s my suggestion: Wynn-Jam. Gotta give you guys props for stepping outside the box. I’ve crewed for races, but really can’t begin to imagine full-timing on the seas! Good luck. For now, we’ll stay with the RVs!
I like Trade Wynns. How about Wynns of Change or maybe Fair Wynns. Good luck!
Don’t you wish that in the RV industry having a survey and road trial was the norm? Given what diesel pushers cost, build quality quirks, etc. it sure makes me scratch my head…
Well worth the money, even if he found nothing. My naming offer would be “Four Wynns” a play on you two and the cats and of the four winds (N, E, S & W).
How about “Wynners”, or “Wynns Win” for a boat name.
So where will you be berthed? Do you have a slip reserved? That was one of the biggest issues we had when we first had the boat. I lived on a boat for 5 years with 2 kids (from birth) and it was awesome. I knew nothing about sailing when I started, either. So, go forth and learn and enjoy!
Name? How about Wynn-Dough, because you are our window to this adventure…and they Wynn’s are spending a lot of dough to make it a reality. Best of luck to you!
How exciting this new adventure is so far! We are hoping to do the RV Adventure when we retire next year. We are driving to Alaska starting May 13th, too! Here is an Insurance Agency referral for insurance – http://w3ins.com/personal-insurance/marine-insurance/. I have worked at WWW for 31 years and you can’t go wrong here. I can put you in touch with very experienced marine insurance professionals, if you are interested.
Sailboat name – how about “Follow That Dream”!! Enjoy!
I think it may be the case that the borrower pays for the survey. But in any case, the buyer pays for everything. The seller just gets what is left over.
I like “WynnStream” for the name. But hey, with the last name of Wynn there must be dozens of possibilities.
I had a 31′ Irwin Citation (or should that have been Irwynn) for 10 years – and it makes RVing look like a super cheap lifestyle. Everything for the boat cost a ton. You learn to do a lot of things yourself. But look at it this way… there are no tires to blow out or replace.
And, that reminds me of the name issue. When we bought our sailboat the previous owner had named it Shadowfax – I wanted to change it to Kamuela (great town on the Big Island, HI) but my wife said it was bad luck to change a boats name and we needed all the luck we could get. So, it stayed Shadowfax for our entire ownership.
Well I traveled with my motorcoach all over the united States, and landed in Flordia,
Now I’m looking for a 47 fft sailboat to continue my adventure at the seas, would you know it
I have to run into the winns, well it will be fun watching there videos, I my self have been surveying sail boats
Here in Flordia and well it a tough job, but your video did a great job of explaining the boat buying experience
Good luck and see you in the seas.
After all – it plays on your name, your brand and the fact that you found the boat you really wanted, and you somehow made it affordable. So a win-win for everyone. So what else could you possibly name your new home but Wynn-Wynn!
Best of luck on you new sailing adventures!
Boat name is easy Gone With The Wynns
Wind Dancer is the name I will use in a couple of years when we retire on a boat.
What an adventure! And you are right, buying a house is so much easier. They usually don’t have the potential to sink or leave you stranded.
Boat names: after one of your mothers, or a cool combination of both of their names, somehow? Or take a word that epitomizes your journey and see how it translates to languages of your ethnicity, or that just sound cool. For example, the word “adventure” translates to przygoda in Polish, or transliterates to peripetaya from Greek. My Dad’s first motor boat was the Nichi Vo (not at all sure on the spelling) which is Russian for roughly “it is enough.” Have fun naming her!
Jason & Nikki, ok, you’ve got me bright green with envy! Congrats on the boat! It sure is a gem.
As for a name. Personally, I think you should continue your “brand” and use “Gone With The Wynns”. Coke doesn’t change its trademark going from bottles to cans. You’re still Gone, just on water this time. And you’re still the Wynns. The play on words between Wynn and Wind still applies. If you choose to put your Gone with the Wynns logo on the side, or on the sail, and you still want a separate name, how about “Tara” for the boat name on the aft? Tara, you’re home in your Gone With the Wynns saga?
Enjoy the incredible adventure ahead.
Name the boat: “Going By The Wynns”
NOTE: My wife has viewed every video you have produced; we are now looking for our first 5th wheel – already bought the truck… 🙂
Wynn’s of Change
Trident, mike and janice
My wife and I did what you’re doing last August. Wee bought an Admiral 380 at the same place. Our haul out for inspection was done by the same little guy operating the crane. We also had impeller issues.(watch for fan belt slipping on impeller shaft), our first winter aboard has been fantastic,scary,adventurous,relaxing, exciting,cause for screaming, teamwork and great times with friends and family…and that’s the first season. Welcome to the ride! We are based in Venice Fl,on the gulf. Great cruising grounds.
Great Video guys I like S.S Wynn Sail 🙂 Happy Sailing.
Oh! I like Trade Wynns too. That would be easy to say on the radio too. Love following you two.
Dennis (Navy grad)
CAUTION! I got tense when I read “pick a name for the boat”…. You’ll need to research — and write about — everything you best do before changing a boat’s name…
The Flying Dutchman
I like “Wynndy”
As always, an informative and entertaining video. This is quite an adventure you’re embarking on and I wish you the best. Looking forward to going along with you as you learn the ropes and become old salts. I’ll play a sea shanty or two on my ukulele as I watch the videos!
My suggestion for the name is Wynnward.
What about ‘Fair Wynns’ ?
Good luck with everything.
I only found out about your side about a week ago and I do enjoy seeing you doing this step! I feel with you as I got a “Thing” for boats about 10 years ago as well. When I say boat I actually mean CRUISING CATAMARAN. I have dropped and picked the idea a few times in between in favour of other dreams and projects. One was owning my own little aircraft … a few people said “great” and most said “don’t do it”. I still did. Well…I have learned my lesson and I should have taken a “surveyor” as well. Maybe they should even open an organization called SAACS (Society of Accredited Aircraft Surveyors) … ?
Since about two years I am living a third of my time in a VW Camper, the other two thirds in my little apartment in Blackforest, Germany (less and less) or in hotels around the world on the job.
As the boat thing never left me and I rather want to live on a boat than having a house or upgraded motorhome, I feel a bit like you two. I found “my” catamaran and are about to start all the things you two are doing now. It feels good to have some company in this, especially as it seems our level of knowledge in boating is about the same ?
Boat name for you…well I had a few ideas that all relate with your name too. (Wynny-Base) , but I think you should think of a phantasy name that reflects your dreams or emotions with your new floating home.
Do you guys have an email address too? I have tried contacting you before, but email button on the left doesn’t give away a recipients email…and I am not on any of the other platforms (purposely ?).
Go ahead and continue to live your dreams. Inspire us…!
I’m loving your journey to pursue life on a boat! It has always been a dream of mine. You were very smart to pay for a comprehensive survey. Keep us posted on all the progress. My name suggestion is ” Gone With The Winds!”
PS. Thank you for all the RV knowledge you have shared!
Great video! So excited for you!! I love the name previously mentioned “Wynn Song”. All the best with all that lies ahead!!
Congratulations! One step closer to the next adventure. Can’t wait for the next update where I’m confident you will be moving in (or is it on?) to the boat.
Name for boat – Wynn’d Rider
Wynn chimes…… Head Wynns…….. Cruising Wynns…….. Cross Wynns
Wishing you luck with your counter offer, can’t wait to hear if you get it sorted soon
I think it is supposedly bad luck to change the name. That’s my ONLY negative comment. Otherwise yay for you guys!
PS: Wynn Song
Hey you two, congratulations on your new “horizons”. Here’s a suggestion for you and a potentially fun video topic. Changing a boat’s name is a huge deal, traditionally. There are, besides the obvious legal requirements if your boat is a federally numerated hull, certain maritime “Traditions”. Not following thru with those traditional requirements bodes poorly for the boat and her crew; as certainly as an improper square knot, bad luck will follow. The tradition involves six primary steps, and although those steps are consistently required in every renaming tradition, there are variants on how to accomplish the requirement. Prerequisite : Removal of The Vessel’s name from Poseidon’s / Neptune’s Ledger. All vessels in the domain of the Sea Gods are known to them, and their histories recorded. This involves certain effort on board your vessel… ALL TRACES of the prior name are to be expunged & removed from on board, including name boards, call signs, paperwork, ect.
Opening Invocation: Call to Neptune Call to Poseidon & the lessor gods of wind (Aeolus) and wave .. includes Libations shared with same, over the side.
Blessing: and recognition of the forces of the sea
Expression of Gratitude: for the gentle lessons and the hard lessons. Include recognition of the wisdom of good Captains, libations to all and toasts and boasts… It must be demonstrated verbally and physically by all on board at the event that the vessel and crew are worthy denizens of the seas. This is always accompanied by Libation and boisterous bravado so the gods may note the captain and crew are considered worthy by all.
Supplication & De-naming: The formal commitment to the sea, and the commitment to memories of the past, & the ‘Formal Request’ to have the ledger purged. (Libations offered overboard to the gods)
Rededication & Renaming: A new dedication under the new name.
Libation & Ceremonial Rituals : The pouring of Champagne or a fine red wine at the bow… yes, the entire bottle, you are honoring Gods of the Winds and the Seas in “The Christening” . DONT be Cheap, Neptune has his own standards!
Have fun with it!
I was going to mention the name changing ceremony also, so I’m glad someone else brought it up too. My family belonged to a Glastron speed boat club and this ritual was preformed during the main club gathering each summer to any new or changing boat names as a courtesy for owners – was considered really taking chances with “bad luck” not to do the ceremony. Cool thing about “luck” is it doesn’t matter whether you believe in that sort of thing or not – why take the chance (especially on the water!)? It can’t hurt, even if it only gives you a good feeling. 🙂
Here in the UK HRH resides in Windsor Castle, how about Wynnsor Castle as a name for your new home. Just a suggestion. xxx
Loved the video! I am very excited for you guys! I had heard from a cruise ship captian that they generally name boats female names…because the cost of up keep always exceed the initial investment. 😉 Not sure why that has always stuck in my head. How about “Wind-Lass”? sort of a combo of your last name and Lass short for Lassie….ya know…what those Irish folks call girls. 🙂 I am sure I would win no naming contests whatsoever, but that makes me no less excited for you. Good times ahead I am sure. Take care Mr. and Mrs. W!
Forgive me being pedantic but I think you will find that the Irish call females Colleen and it is the Scots who call them Lassies.
Back in the late 80’s we owned a Searay cruiser……we named her the…..Bahama Moma….. Catchy isn’t it !!
My husband and I are avid RV’ers (preparing for going full-time) and that’s how we found your channel last year. We previously owned a towable (swing keel) 24′ monohull sailboat (we live in the Jacksonville/St. Augustine area) for day sailing and quickly learned that day sailing in crowded waterways/inlets is pretty stressful so after two years we sold it and then upgraded our travel trailer to a 42′ fifth wheel camper since we RV a LOT more than we were sailing. But we did have dreams about moving onto a sailboat so we are LOVING watching you go through this process and can’t wait to see your adventures!! Thank you for sharing so much of this information/advice as it definitely gives us an idea of what it would take should we ever decide to go that route!!
What did you do with you RV ? Where are you living while you do all this boat shopping.
Suggest you register in DE. It’s what we did for our Lagoon. Also suggest you get marine insurance domiciled in a state with strong insurance laws e.g. Texas.
“Wynns” “RV2WIND” and that’s just on one cup of coffee ? happy for ya and hope the owner can see she needs some repairs and comes down in price… all the best and excited to view some great vids !
Well, after following your RV adventure my wife and I purchased an RV last August! I did “a little” sailing back in the 80’s and now love your latest videos. You two do a great job!
We did the boating thing for many years and we loved it. We are now looking to early retirement and rvring across North America. . Your RV blog and videos have inspired us to pursue this adventure. Can’t wait to go to Alaska.!
Make sure to cruise the Chesapeake Bay, you’ll love all the coves and quirky small towns it has to offer
What does “Owners version” of a sailboat mean?
As far as I understand, a owners version is a boat that has a more spacious cabin for the owners. In catamarans (again, as far as I have seen), usually one hull is occupied by the owners cabin, a head (toilet and showeroom, I think) and a hallway that connects both things. It is common to see in this hallway a place to hang out with maybe a sofa and a small desk.
At least, thats what I think I know!
If I am wrong, please someone correct me 🙂
From what I gathered from the prior videos, the owner’s version of a catamaran (and probably true of larger monohulls) means the interior is laid out for owner’s comfort. The alternative (and much more common version) is a charter version where the layout is more conducive to accommodating multiple passengers (more bunks and therefore smaller bunkrooms/heads).
I am really enjoying this process. I didn’t realize so much went into buying a boat. Thanks for sharing your story with us, I actually look forward to your videos so please keep them coming!
This is a very informative video for those planning on buying a boat. From what I know about boating that $2k will be the best money you will spend this month.
When naming their loved ones some people are open to suggestions and others want not help at all. Are you open to name suggestions?
If so how about something like:
RV on the Sea? or
Sea RV? or
Our Sea RV?
About 15 years ago, I hired the “Dean” of Washington (state) surveyors to go through a 28′ Carver I wanted to buy. (It was also required by my insurance company for the valuation.) It needed a lot of work, but we got a great deal and it spent the next six months up on blocks in the yard as we paid experts to work on it.
Then, we arranged to have it put in the water and towed the short distance to our marina slip. I was out of town speaking, and flew home on Friday. Saturday dawned bright and clear, and we packed a lunch and headed for the marina for a deck picnic.
The boat sat with four feet of water in it — covering the engine, the electrics, and most of the lower salon. We hurriedly had it pumped out and towed to a repair yard. Turned out that SOMEBODY and put a small crack in the hull, and SOMEBODY hadn’t checked that the bilge pumps were working when it was set at the dock.
But we had great insurance. Expensive insurance. And they sent out an appraiser with about ten minutes experience to say “that boat is worth about half of what the best marine surveyor in Washington said it is”. They offered an insulting settlement, and our lawyer advised us to take it and move on — he said he’d win, in a few years, and charge us more than we’d get.
We no longer own a bot.
Possible name: Gone With The Wynnd.
Well, you could go retro and call her Wynndy. 😉
Paul Deppeler (Aussie Okie)
Boy that is some process, but you guys are thorough 🙂 How about… ‘Trade Wynns’